Tom : Well, that's a great question. ‘Cause I struggle with this. For years, people told me I should go and speak. And I always hesitate because I was afraid that people would gonna expect me to speak like my father. Because he is Zig Zigler. He is maybe, perhaps, the greatest speaker who has ever lived. I mean, you know, his peers rank him at that level. Dad never claimed that for himself . That's what other people said. So, I had this concept, this middle mindset that wait a second, if I go and talk, they're gonna expect me to be like him. In style. And it says that's totally in contrary of the way you raised me. When I was young and growing up, and even not too long ago, Dad would told me this. He would say : “Son, whatever you wanna do, just do it two ways. With one hundred percent integrity. And with one hundred percent effort. You guess why. If all you need to do is doing in integrity and dedication, you know, effort, commitment. That means you can do anything. You can be an artist. You can be a dancer. You can be salesperson. You can be an executive, you can be a speaker. As long as you do whatever you do with a hundred percent integrity and a hundred percent effort. That's what he told me. And so about four years ago, I realized :Hey, wait a second. Nobody expected me to be like that. They just want me to be me. And so what that meant was that I had to develop the gift that I had. ‘Cause my speaking styles were a lot different. I'm more reserved. You know, I don't run around the stage and drop up and down like dad did. I tell people I'm kind of a nerd. Who guess what, there's a whole lot of nerds out there. And there's a whole lot of people. And so, if I , myself, if I become the best version of me I can become. Then I connect. If I try to be somebody else, they do not believe you. You know, people are smart. If you try to pull off something you're not, people figure it out.
David : And do you tell the same lessons to your daughter ?
Tom : Yes. I try to every day. She's eighteen. She's deciding where she wants to go in life. She's going in the college. She is incredible.
David : To let advice, I think to give that to children and youth and everybody. One person integrity, one person dedication and committed to what you want to do
Tom : A lot of what we teach is based on what we call biblical truth. That comes out of the bible. And even though we don't go out, and share, you know bible verses and things like that often and set the right environment. There's a proverb that says : “Training up a child in the way they should go.” And the original text I believe in Hebrew, training up means in the way they've bent. So each of us has come into the world. We've got a wrong personality. And so as parents, our responsibility is to recognize the personality the child has. And encourage them to go with that.
David : Help him to find his own power and give…
Tom : So, the guidelines are character and integrity. It's the principles and values. It's not what you go and do. We work with wanderwarriers. You know these are military men and women who, around the battlefield they get injured. And so in a way, everything they want to do was taken away from them. And a lot of things that they had were taken away from them. So, we've talked about you've got a “be” before you can do. And “do” before you can have. We call the “be do have” philosophy. And so if our focus is I wanna do this and I wanna have that, we'll get a trouble. Because those can be taken away from you. If you focus on the kind of person you wanna be, then all the doors are opened and that can never be taken from you. And so, I think parents make the mistake of focusing on what the child is gonna do, or what they're gonna have. Instead of the person they want to become.
David : Great. I love that. Thank you very much.