DAVID LAROCHE: Hello, today I am with a new amazing expert. He’s a neuroscientist. He’s Jeffrey Fannin, the [inaudible] 0:00:08.0 of the website called “Enhance your Brain,” and he’s with me to answer my questions. Hello.
JEFFREY FANNIN: It’s a pleasure to meet you, thank you.
DAVID: How are you, today?
JEFFREY: It’s a pleasure to be here. I’m doing really well today.
DAVID: I’m very glad to be doing this interview with you because you are not only a speaker or an expert but you’re also a neuroscientist. Who are you and how did you start to learn about the brain and the power of the brain?
JEFFREY: Once I went back to school and got my Ph.D. in psychology, human performance was something that was always very interesting to me: Why do we do the things that we do?
And so, I taught a lot of neuroscience at the doctorate level and the master’s level; but I still wanted to know more. I wanted to understand. And then, I got introduced to what we call “brain mapping,” taking an EEG and converting it to what we call a “QEEG,” a quantitative EEG. And that was pretty fascinating for me because we could see patterns in what we call the “brain map,” and with those patterns, we could see things.
In my clinic, we work with attention deficit disorder, anxiety, and depression. We also work with optimal performance with leaders. We work with high school and professional athletes in getting their brain to perform at its best.
DAVID: So it’s not only to study the brain but also to have them use the brain.
JEFFREY: That’s right. Training the brain became very important to me. If you just understand the brain, at the end of the day, all you’d get is good dinner conversation if you can’t use it in some way to perform better.
Then, we started pushing the envelope. We did a lot of work. I was on a research team from Arizona State University for a number of years and we did some work at West Point Military Academy looking at neuroscience and leadership. We looked at things like complexity of thinking and a whole bunch of different things looking to measure what we might call “nebulous” kinds of circumstances in the brain.
We wanted to see if there’s a connection between leadership and neuroscience, and we found that there was. There were some definite patterns.
That led me on to other things after I’ve finished and left that project. I began looking at things like consciousness: Why do we do what we do?
I did some research with a colleague of mine, Rob Williams, and we did some measures on changing subconscious belief patterns because that’s something that we all have. From the time we grow up, we have stuff that doesn’t serve us very well.
And so, we did about a hundred and twenty-five cases. He had a process that had been used for 25 years around the world (and still is being used) to change subconscious belief patterns. But all he had were anecdotal evidences, stories about how people’s lives have changed.
When I came along, we decided, “Let’s see if we can measure that.” And so, we began measuring that and, sure enough, we were able to pick up information and show what this thing called the “whole-brain state” is all about.
In that research, I was able to coin a phrase that the whole-brain state is the gateway to higher consciousness. Of course, that begs the question, what is consciousness?
So we began to look at that. I worked with Dr. Dispenza and we did a number of events in terms of information to transformation, working with people who were advanced meditators. We wanted to see what the brain did in some of these circumstances. We didn’t know whether we were going to get anything while we measured it.
So we measured it. We did some brain map and some EEGs and we found the most phenomenal things. We were also able to measure what we call the “morphogenic [morphogenetic] field,” 0:04:38.7 the energy in the room. When you’ve gone to a workshop or a seminar and you feel that energy and how the energy would affect different people and their brains.
One of the other things that I’ve been doing is some research with Dr. Yury Kronn, a physicist, looking at what we call “subtle energy” and its effect on the brain.
We live in an energy field. We are part of that energy field. When you see, for example, a galaxy that’s turning around and going round and round, what makes that move?
Well, that’s subtle energy. In being able to utilize that, we understand that that’s part of what happens in the brain. So you get in this morphogenic [morphogenetic] field. We feel that exuberance and that inspiration; and we understand, in quantum physics, things like the quantum entanglement that things that happen in that field affect everything else.
So we began to measure those things and, in these events, we would see pretty amazing things happen as a result of this energy field. For example, we had one woman who had Parkinson’s disease. We would physically see the tremors when we measured her before the event began, and we would also see it on the EEG.
Three days later, the energy in the field was so high. It was very different that we measured her again; and there were hardly any tremors. You couldn’t see them on the EEG; you couldn’t see them physically.
Then, we followed her for about three months and she was able to maintain that; and it began to change her life. Her husband said that her tremors had minimized; they were hardly there.
We had another guy who had a brain tumor. He had another scan done in the Cancer Center in Houston, and they told him, “You don’t need to come back because we can’t find it.”
DAVID: Wow! Do you think the future of cancer and…
JEFFREY: It’s too early to say. We just don’t know. What we do know is that all disease is just a dysregulation of energy within our bodies.
A colleague of mine, Dr. Bruce Lipton, wrote a book called “The Biology of Belief.” A belief is a thought that you have over and over again.
The book that I’m currently finishing is called “Help! My Thoughts are Holding Me Hostage.” In that book, we talk about thoughts and how managing our thoughts and emotions have so much to do with creating our own reality.
DAVID: So what Napoleon Hill and the speakers are saying is true.
JEFFREY: That’s right. It is true.
DAVID: How do you prove that?
JEFFREY: That’s one of the things that we did at this particular event. We took volunteers and measured. We measured with their eyes closed just what their brain normally does, and then put them into the whole-brain state and then measure that—have them use their intention, the dream, the goal that they have, and then see what the difference is. And we definitely saw some amazing differences.
DAVID: I saw the difference.
JEFFREY: And to look at that scientifically, we did what’s called an “independent t-test.” That means that you can take two conditions, Condition A and Condition B (in this case, their eyes closed, and then their brain on this intention) and look at that and say, “Are there any differences and is it statistically significant?”
And we found that that was the case, that it was significant to the .01 level. What that means is that there is a 99% probability that the two phenomena that we looked at are not by chance and that there is a real difference between them.
DAVID: So you are proving that when you focus on your dreams and everything, something happens in your brain and in your body. How do you transform that into results?
JEFFREY: Part of that has to do with our thought processes. For example, let’s take a thought. Whether it’s a positive thought or negative thought, it doesn’t matter.
We have that thought and there’s a law in physics that basically says that when you have energy that is vibrating at a particular frequency, within 17 seconds, other energy like that will be attracted to it.
So if I’m having a positive thought or a negative thought, then, what happens is that energy is attracted. 0:09:35.1 I have other thoughts that are like that thought. So if you do that for 68 seconds, then, momentum begins to occur.
Imagine that you’re in San Francisco at the top of the hill. Your car is there and the brake releases, and you’re standing there. How difficult is it for you to put your hands out and stop that car from rolling if you’re a foot away from it?
It’s not very difficult.
But imagine that if you were at the bottom of the hill and the momentum—negative thought after negative thought after negative thought. And, now, the car is going down the hill. How difficult is it to stop with momentum like that?
When it has that level of energy behind it, it’s impossible to stop.
So changing your thoughts when they are in the beginning, when the momentum is very small, allows those things to happen.
In answer to your question, normally, all our emotions have a frequency to it. So, if I’m in despair, anger, or worry, all of those are lower and denser frequencies. You get into things like contentment, happiness, joy, love, those are higher and faster frequencies.
Let’s say that I normally live in contentment and that’s my sub-point. That’s where I live. I think about that all the time; that’s way my makeup is, and that sort of thing.
So I’m driving down the highway. All of a sudden, a car cuts me off and I get angry. Now, I’m in the lower and denser frequencies. Then, I go back to the office and I’m telling all my colleagues, “Here’s what happened. This knucklehead cut me off.” I go home and tell my wife.
What am I doing? I’m vibrating angry energy.
So I go to the supermarket and there is somebody in line. I have three items and I’m getting in line; and somebody ahead of me has thirty-eight items; and the guy who’s running the cash register (it’s his first day) is not doing very well; he’s very slow.
Is that a coincidence? No, it’s something for me to get angry about. So I’m attracting into my world whatever it is that I’m vibrating.
So where my thoughts are, that’s what’s creating my reality.
DAVID: It’s amazing. The question I would like to ask you because I know that the people want to know is how can we increase 0:12:04.8 the frequency of thoughts?
JEFFREY: A very good question! Cleaning up the frequency is a relationship of wholeness—a spirit, mind, body relationship. If you’re physically out of alignment, then, you end up with things like disease. If you are mentally out of alignment, you can have things like anxiety, depression, attention deficit disorder and those kinds of things. And if you’re spiritually out of alignment, it means that you’re not able to create the elements within your world and the things that come into your reality.
To change those things, you have the momentum going. It’s a little bit like falling out of an airplane without a parachute. So you’re falling and you say, “Help! What do I do now”?
Just wait a few minutes and it will be over. You can’t stop the momentum. It’s like the car on the hill. You just kind of have to get out of the way of that.
Change the thought process in order to make things turn out differently, from the negative thoughts to the positive thoughts.
When we’re thinking all those negative thoughts, we end up thinking about the details. This person said this and they treated me this way—one thing after another after another. So you get that momentum going on the negative side.
If you can shift that to what we call “negative general” like “well, maybe this isn’t as bad as I’m making it out to be and things really do kind of work themselves out. Then, I can go from there.”
What happens in the body is it creates new neuropeptides; and we start to feel different emotions because a lot of it is about “we think and then we feel; and then, we feel and then we think.” So it’s back and forth, and that’s how those set points 0:13:56.8 get and we tend to habituate those experiences of what we think and feel. That’s what locks in our world.
If we change that and go to the positive general—“well, things generally work out well and I know that the universe is working for me; I know that I have control over some of these things”—then, we feel better. We feel more in control. That vibration is now raised to a level where we are feeling content and hopeful.
And so, once we get to that point, then, we can start to put in the details: “Now, I have my dream; I have my goal. This is what I want to do. I can feel that; I can see that; I can imagine where that is; I can visualize it; I can experience that.”
And that’s kind of what we showed on stage today, the difference of putting somebody in that state and what happens to their brain in that condition.
DAVID: So do you think every day, we have to focus and think about our dreams?
JEFFREY: Sure, absolutely! What we really need to do is to be in command of our thoughts and emotions. Our emotions really are the indicator. It’s the thing that causes us to recognize when were off track.
It’s like a compass. You can look and see when you’re off course. How do we know when our thoughts are off course or when our emotions are off course?
We get those negative emotions and feelings. We feel frustrated. We feel angry. We’re not experiencing love or gratitude.
Now, it’s another thing to change that. So if we’re in that grumpy negative state, all we have to do is find something that we can be grateful for. And it could be, “Boy, I’m just really grateful that the sky is blue today.”
Find those little things and feel that because that changes the level of frequency. And then, you can start the momentum in a different direction. Then, things start happening spontaneously.
You’re driving down to the store and, all of a sudden, there’s that parking place and somebody is just pulling out as you’re pulling in; and you begin to have amazing things happen.
You go in a store; you get an item; you take it up; and they say, “Oh, this happens to be on sale. It’s 50% off today.”
You get somebody who is aware that people begin to rendezvous in and around you to the things that are important to you.
And so, when we learn how to control that and to do that consciously rather than letting our thoughts run on default, then, we are in command of our own world.
DAVID: For the people who are listening to us now, the main thing we have to do is to have consciousness about our emotions. It is the main thing that we have to do to succeed in life.
JEFFREY: That’s correct.
DAVID: And what is the emotion with the highest frequency?
JEFFREY: That’s a very interesting question. I don’t know if we know the answer to that. There are people we’ve measured who have what’s called the “kundalini” experience.
DAVID: What is it?
JEFFREY: Most of us, when we measure those frequencies of what we vibrate and the brain map, our tuners are from one hertz all the way up to, say, sixty hertz. We look at that as a general rule.
For the people who have the ability to get more information, their tuner is expanded. And so, when people have a kundalini experience, there is a greater amount of energy.
If your tuner is only set from zero to sixty, when you have that kundalini energy that comes in, your tuner is not able to handle it very well.
So if it comes in smaller bursts, then, your tuner’s ability to handle frequencies at 200 hertz or at 300 hertz and having more information within the collective conscious. The quantum entanglement of physics is part of that.
DAVID: Have you ever had a kundalini experience?
JEFFREY: I have had it, yes; and we’ve also brain mapped people while they’ve been having the kundalini experiences. And so, we can see in the EEG and on the brain map exactly what’s happening.
So that’s part of the research that we’re involved in now. It’s looking at how you expand your level of consciousness. And there are a lot of definitions of what consciousness is.
To me, it is expanding that tuner so that the frequencies in the universe go up many thousands of hertz. But we, as human beings, what creates our three-dimensional reality are the slower, denser frequencies.
DAVID: During my interviews, I love give actions to my audience. So what can they do now to increase their frequency? What is your advice?
JEFFREY: What you can do now is, first of all, to use that device in here, the emotions. Let that be the guidance factor. You don’t need anything out here to tell you what’s going on. Your emotions will tell you.
So when you’re having positive emotions, you’re tuned in, tapped in, and turned on. You feel inspired. The day is going well and everything is happening.
But if you’re having negative emotions, then, how do change that?
You can use the process that I talked about earlier. And it begins with gratitude. Find something to be grateful and thankful about even if it’s very, very small; and keep practicing that.
As long as you stay in that environment, your frequency will rise. You’ll feel better. And that’s something everybody can do. It’s just a choice whether you’ll do it or not because some people get addicted, if you will, to negative thinking. Seventy-five percent of our thoughts are negative.
DAVID: Wow! So you have to focus on the twenty-five.
JEFFREY: Right! It’s a matter of “do you choose to manage your thoughts and be in command of your thoughts or do you live in default whatever comes your way?”
DAVID: You have to make a decision today.
JEFFREY: That’s right. You have to make a decision today. And then, do it. Practice it. The more you do it, the better you’ll get at it.
DAVID: I have a last question about visualization because during your speech, you had someone on stage and you were doing some exercise about his dreams and everything. I can think about my dream but without feeling something. Is it working?
DAVID: For example, I can say, “I will impact one million people” but without engagement. Is it working?
JEFFREY: Sure, it is. But the question is to what degree is it working? When we visualize and we have that information that’s going on in the visual cortex, that information is not just sitting there; it’s happening in different places throughout the brain with different frequencies. So it’s about vibration. It’s about frequency.
Emotion is part of that when it becomes real and we can increase that level of conductance, if you will, or what we call “coherence.” So there is a relationship between the heart, the electromagnetic centers of the heart, and the head. There is a vagus nerve that runs…
Some people believe that the head rules the heart; and other people believe that the heart rules the head. I happen to believe it’s a synergistic response between both of them. When you add the emotion, it becomes more concrete.
If you’re just listening to audio and what all your viewers could hear is what we’re talking about, sure, it’s working, they’re hearing what we’re talking about; but it becomes a lot more interesting if you add the visual to it, doesn’t it?
JEFFREY: The same things happen when you add the emotions to the visualization and the intention. Now, you have a cognitive structure that becomes very real and very powerful in terms of the frequency that it’s broadcasting.
We are vibrational beings living in a vibrational universe.
DAVID: I have an experience three or four months ago. I was doing a speech for youths. Maybe it was the first time I felt so much gratitude at the end of my speech; and I used that as an experience to trigger gratitude.
I do that every morning. Some mornings, I feel the gratitude very quickly and I pray and I feel that in my body. And, sometimes, I just see the scene but without feeling something.
The first time, I was a little bit upset about that. I wanted to feel something.
JEFFREY: Let me explain what happens there. We have these centers on the front of our brain. What we know neuroscience tells us is that when we have this alternating pulsing that goes on—left, right, left, right, left, right—in the frontal lobes, that’s when people experience at a particular frequency. That’s when they experience gratitude and thankfulness.
So if you’re all getting is a visualization, it means that your brain is not doing that to activate that system that allows the emotion and the neuropeptides to create that your body feels. You’ve basically disconnected part of the system. Does it make sense?
DAVID: Yes. So what is your advice to connect [inaudible] 0:24:21.1 with these emotions?
JEFFREY: Notice what emotions you’re feeling. If you’re visualizing and you’re not getting anything, you must be feeling something. So even if it feels void, think about something that you can be grateful for even if it’s something small. Work yourself into that frequency. It’s just a misalignment of frequency, that’s all.
DAVID: Do you have a message to share for people?
JEFFREY: Take what I’ve said and do it every day.
DAVID: Thank you very much.